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Shadow defence minister Mark Francois joins Ali Fortescue to the Ukraine struggle and the way issues would possibly develop.

He admits the prime minister “has performed effectively” this previous week, assembly Donald Trump in Washington and internet hosting a summit of different world leaders over the weekend.

However for all Trump’s incendiary rhetoric about Ukraine and defence, Francois believes “he has a degree”.

He tells Ali: “In his first presidency, he stated repeatedly NATO nations ought to spend at the very least 2% of GDP.

“About 4 European members of NATO paid that on the time – and on the newest rely, that is now 23.”

“He is at all times been constant on this,” Francois provides, and he hopes members can agree on a better goal quantity at a summit in June.

‘Tariffs would harm each of us’

He’s, nonetheless, anxious about tariffs – and really a lot hopes the prime minister can persuade Trump to not hit the UK with them.

“The US is the one largest investor within the UK, and the UK is the one largest investor within the US,” Francois says.

“Tariffs would harm each of us – if you would like progress, you need free commerce.

“Hopefully we will keep away from tariffs.”